Maj. Andrew Munro

1625 - 1668  (43 years)

• Name	Andrew Munro  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11]
  Prefix	Maj.
  Born	1625	Evanton, , Ross and Cromarty, Scotland   [12]
  	Katewell
  Gender	Male
  Died	1668	Doctor's Point, Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA   [13, 14]
  Person ID	I432	Munro
  Last Modified	1 Jan 2015

  
  

  Father	David Munro, III of Katewell,   b. 1595, Evanton, , Ross and Cromarty, Scotland ,   d. 1648, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA  (Age 53 years)
  Mother	Agnes Munro,   b. 1599, Durness, , Sutherland, Scotland ,   d. , , Ross and Cromarty, Scotland
  Married	1620	Evanton, , Ross and Cromarty, Scotland   [15]
  	Married at Katewell or Coul. [15]
  Family ID	F705	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Elizabeth Alexander,   b. 1640, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA ,   d. 1690, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA  (Age 50 years)
  Married	1658	, Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA
  Children	+ 1. Susannah Monroe,   b. 1653, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA ,   d. 1709  (Age 56 years) + 2. Elizabeth Monroe,   b. 1656, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA ,   d. Yes, date unknown   3. Mary Monroe,   b. 1659, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA ,   d. Dec 1661  (Age 2 years) + 4. Capt. Andrew Monroe, II,   b. 1661, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA ,   d. 9 Jun 1714, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA  (Age 53 years)   5. Thomas Monroe,   b. Abt 1662,   d. Yes, date unknown   6. George Monroe,   b. 1663, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA ,   d. Yes, date unknown + 7. William Gent Monroe,   b. 1666, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA ,   d. 30 Mar 1737, , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA  (Age 71 years)
  Last Modified	6 Dec 2014
  Family ID	F209	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  Some researchers believe that this is a composite of two people, one Andrew who came to Maryland about 1642 and a second Andrew who was taken prisoner at the battle of Preston in 1648 and banished to Virginia. This belief is based mainly on the fact that the "earlier" Andrew was illiterate and unable to sign his name, but the "later" Andrew was literate. There is no definitive proof one way or the other, since he may have simply become literate. George H. S. King has argued quite convincingly that there were two distinct men named Andrew Munro/Monroe. (Clan Munro Magazine - #6 - 1959-60) King believed that the earlier Andrew immigrated to Maryland in 1637 and ultimately became the ancestor of President James Monroe. His ancestry is completely unknown. King says that the second Andrew was a minister and was the son of David Munro of Katewell and his wife Agnes Munro, but this Andrew was not the ancestor of President Monroe. There is great controversy about these two versions of history. In this database, we show David of Katewell and Agnes Munro as ancestors of President Monroe, but that assumption is very weak and definitely not proven. ********** «i»Said to be son of David Munro (Katewell family) settled St. Mary's County, Maryland, USA 1641, Northumberland County, Virginia 1650; b. Scotland; d. Westmoreland County, Virginia, USA 1668; m. Elizabeth (traditionally Alexander), with issue - Andrew (1661-1714), George, William (1666-1737, ancestor of President James Monroe), Elizabeth (m. Bunch Roe), Susan or Susannah (m. George Weedon), & Mary (d. December, 1661). Munro Tree Q/47 note; Mackenzie pp. 480-1 - dismissed by G.H.S. King in Clan Munro Magazine vi 14-18 (1959/60 issue); Northrup 351; Note by Mrs. deVolt (1957); D. Dodson, Scots on the Chesapeake (1992), p. 113.«/i» (R. W. Munro's genealogy notes) ********** ********** The following is from the "William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine" - Vol. XIII #4 - Oct 1933 - The Monroe Family - p. 231-241: In the "Life of James Monroe" by his son-in-law, Samuel Lawrence Gouverneur of New York State, it is stated that Andrew Monroe, ancestor of President Monroe, was an officer in King Charles' Army. The following is quoted in part from Lund Washington (1767-1853), who married Susannah Monroe Grayson, grand-daughter of Captain Benjamin Grayson and Susannah Monroe, his wife, and who was for years on intimate terms with members of the Monroe family: - "Andrew Monroe emigrated from Scotland to America in 1650, he belonged to an ancient highland clan and was Captain in the service of Charles I. He received a grant of land on the borders of Monroe creek (so called after the family) about one mile below Bluff Point and about four miles from Pope's Creek (where Washington was born) on the Potomac in Northumberland County. In the time of Charles II he returned to Scotland and induced others of his family to emigrate and another extensive grant of land in the same quarter was made to him by the corwn." We quote the following from Mr. James D. Evans, a descendant of the Monroe family, and an ardent student of genealogy: - "The identity and derivation of the immigrant, the 1st Andrew Monroe, has not, I think, been settled by the assumption that he was indubitably the Major Andrew Monroe, 3rd son of David Munro of Scotland who participated in the Battle of Preston and being taken prisoner by the English (1648) was banished to Virginia. The article which appears in the William and Mary Quarterly, written by Mr. Edward S. Lewis of St. Louis, which attempts to substantiate the identity is by no means conclusive. It presents nohting more than an interesting conjecture but no evidence except identity of name. There is very positive proof that Andrew Monroe who appeared in Virginia and Westmoreland County in 1650 and patented lands in 1652 on what later became known as Monroe's Creek, and who can be none other than the first of the Monroes who for generations remained in unbroken line in that vicinity, came there from St. Mary's County, Maryland, and was the same as is traceable in the Maryland Archives back to 1642 in the same place. He appears there to have been assessed 50 lbs. of tobacco in Jul 1642 to support the war against the Susquehanna Indians (Maryland Assembly Proceedings V. 2-30/2 Entry book #53) and again as a freeholder represented in the Assembly by Capt. Thomas Cornwallis on 22 Aug 1642 (Maryland Archives Acts of Assembly V. I-165). On 6 Apr 1648 Andrew Monroe signed with his mark as witness a deed of gift from Burgess Thomas Sturman to his son John Sturman to all his cattle and his shallop 'now in Maryland.' (Lb. 362). On 2 Apr 1648 Andrew Munrowe of Appomattox in Virginia (a point on the Potomac across the river from St. Mary's, Maryland) made a bill of sale for a heifer 2 years old to Thomas Sturman which was witnessed by John Sturman (Lb-383). "it is likely, if not certain, that Andrew Monroe went to Virginia from Maryland in 1647, with Thomas Youell and Thomas Sturman. These two men originally settled in Kent Isle in the Chesapeake - first claimed by Colonel William Clayburn of the Virginia Council who settled it in 1634 or earlier but was in 1638 dispossessed by Lord Calvert. They made an affidavit to the effect 20 May 1640, when they removed to St. Mary's, the seat of government. Thomas Sturman was successively Burgess from St. Michael's and St. Mary's. In 1645 Thomas Sturman, his son John, and Thomas Youell joined Richard Ingle in a revolt against Leonard Calvert, deputy-governor, and were condemned as rebels, a price put on their heads and their property confiscated. They fled to Virginia across the Potomac. Amnesty was later decreed to such as should sue for pardon and Thomas and John Sturman accepted it and made their oaths of allegiance. Thomas Youell apparently never complied and remained in Virginia where he patented lands and lived the rest of his life. In 1647/8 Thomas Sturman and Andrew Monroe left St. Mary's and settled near Youell in Westmoreland county. John Sturman later also crossed into Virginia where he married Elizabeth, daughter of Patrick and Dorcas Spence, the sister of Eleanor Spence, who married Andrew the 2nd, son of Andrew, the immigrant. Patrick Spence the second married Penelope, daughter of Thomas Youell." The following is taken from the History and Register of the Colonial Dames of Virginia, page 497, and is basis for Colonial Dame Claim: - "Andrew Monroe of Maryland born in Scotland in _____ and died in Virginia 1668. Resided in Virginia and Maryland 1642-1668. Member of the Maryland Association, 1642. Captain of a ship under Cuthbert Fenwick." In the preceding paragraphs we have tried to give as much evidence as possible in regard to the identity and derivation of the immigrant Monroe. In brief, it will be noted that there are two schools of thought among most Monroe genealogists - (1) those that think him to be the son of David and Agnes (Munro) Munro of Scotland, fought in the Battle of Preston with rank of Major, 1648, was banished and came to Virginia where he settled; (2) those that think him to be of undetermined derivation, first appearing in St. Mary's county, Maryland, in 1642, and later, about 1647/8, moving across the Potomac River to Westmoreland county, Virginia, where he settled and died. However, it is the opinion of the writers that these two Andrew Monres are identical; that is, that Andrew Monroe, the third son of David Munro of Katewell and Agnes Munro, his wife, came first to America about 1642 and settled in St. Mary's County, Maryland, where he lived and we find record of him, moving about 1647 to Virginia and living at Appomattox, Westmoreland County, until about Apr 1648, when (as intimated in the quotation from Lund Washington) he returned to Scotland, fought in the Battle of Preston with the rank of Major on 17 Aug 1648, where he was taken prisoner and banished to Virginia - again settling in Westmoreland county where he died in 1668. Andrew received his first grant of land 8 Jun 1650 in Northumberland County, Virginia, and was later (1652) granted land in Westmoreland County, Virginia. In 1659/1660 he was made a member of the Westmoreland Commission. In Jul 1661 he was elected to the vestry of Appomattox Parish, Westmoreland County. He began to write the name Munroe and it finally attained its present form, Monroe. He married Elizabeth, who is said to have been a daughter of Colonel John Alexander, who died in 1677, but we have found no documentary evidence that would definitely establish her surname. Andrew Monroe died in Westmoreland County in 1668. His widow, Elizabeth Monroe, married second before 30 Jul 1679, George Horner, and third before 23 Feb 1686-1687, Edward Mountjoy of Westmoreland County. ********** Lund Washington wrote that Andrew Monroe came from the Scottish Highlands and received a land-grant on Monroe Creek, in Northumberland, in 1650. He was Captain in the service of Charles 1st. He returned to Scotland in the time of Charles 2nd and encouraged other of the family to emigrate and received another grant of land from the Crown. Lund Washington knew the descendants of all the people of whom he wrote. After all, his mother-in-law, Susanna Monroe Grayson, was the daughter of Col. Andrew Monroe and the grand-daughter of the original Andrew Monroe. Andrew learned to write and gradually changed the name from Munroe to Monroe (this, according to George Harrison Sanford King in his article "The Monroe Family"). King states that the Maryland Andrew Monroe and the Virginia Andrew Monroe are one and the same. He references MacKenzie's book as one of his sources. King was regarded as the expert on the Monroes. He did the genealogies for the Jamestowne Society and Order of the First Families of Virginia. In the article "The Maryland Ancestry of James Monroe" in Maryland Genealogies Vol. II by Monroe Johnson, Johnson quotes Pres. Daniel C. Gilman of Johns Hopkins University and the original biographer of James Monroe, that Andrew came to Maryland in 1637 and settled on Kent Island. He left Maryland after Ingle's revolt and settled in Westmoreland County. It is believed that Andrew first came to America about 1642 and settled in St. Mary's County, Maryland. In Jul 1642, he was assessed 50 lbs. of tobacco to support the war against the Susquehanna Indians. On 24 Feb 1647 he was defendant in a suit of Mrs. Mary Brent in which he was decreed to pay her 400 lbs. of tobacco. He was a member of the Maryland Association, in 1642, and captain of a ship under Cuthbert Fenwick, general agent for Lord Baltimore, and he was known as a "mariner." When Richard Ingle declared for the Parliament, Andrew took sides against Lord Baltimore's government, and like Nathaniel Pope, ancestor of President Washington, Dr. Thomas Gerrard and other leading Marylanders, he fled over the Potomac to a settlement under the Virginia authority. He lived at Appomattox, Westmoreland County until about Apr 1648, when he returned to Scotland. He fought with the rank of Major under his distinguished relative, General Sir George Munro I of Newmore at the battle of Preston on 17 Aug 1648 with the forces of King Charles I. He was taken prisoner there and banished to Virginia. Andrew managed to effect his escape and settled in Northumberland County, Virginia, where he had several grants of land made to him, the first extending to 200 acres, designated as one of the "Head Rights" being dated 8 Jun 1650. He received a grant of land on the borders of Monroe Creek (so called after the family) about one mile below Bluff Point and about four miles from Pope's Creek (where Washington was born) on the Potomac in Northumberland County. In the time of Charles II he returned to Scotland and induced others of his family to emigrate and another extensive grant of land in the same quarter was made to him by the crown. In 1652, he had settled in Westmoreland County, Virginia. In this same year he signed an oath promising to be faithful to the Commonwealth of England. This implies that he must have been a suspected Loyalist to the Crown, otherwise his oath would not have been required. By 11 Apr 1652, he was serving as Commissioner of the Council of the State for the Common Wealth of England. In 1659/60 he was made a Member of the Westmoreland Commission. In July 1661 he was elected to the Vestry of Appomattox Parish, Westmoreland County. He began to write the name Munroe and it finally attained its present form, Monroe. On 26 Oct 1666, he received 920 acres of land in Westmoreland County, Virginia for transporting 6 persons. Andrew and Elizabeth married in 1652 according to one reference, but another says they were married before 1650. Elizabeth is said to be a daughter of Colonel John Alexander, but this surname has not been proven. After Andrew's death she married, before 30 Jul 1679, (2) George Horner and, before 23 Feb 1686/7, (3) Edward Mountjoy of Westmoreland County. Error alert: The Cochran reference says that Andrew married Eleanor Spence, but it is believed that Eleanor was the wife of Andrew's son, Andrew. ********** The following is from Mackenzie's "History of the Munros of Fowlis" - p. 480-481: «i»Andrew, who under his distinguished relative, General Sir George Munro, I. of Newmore, fought, with the rank of Major, at the battle of Preston, on 17 Aug 1648, was taken prisoner there, and banished to Virginia, America. Andrew managed to effect his escape and settled in Northumberland County, Virginia, where he had several grants of land made to him, the first extending to 200 acres, disignated as one of the "Head Rights," being dated 8 Jun 1650. He married, and had issue, from whom, it is believed, President James Monroe of the United States of America was descended. «/i»********** ********** The following is from the documents of Reta Malan Loehr: «i»Andrew Munro immigrated to America in his early teens first settling in Maryland, possibly on Kent Island. In the late 1640's he was listed on the freeman's proxies of Capt. Thomas Cornwalleys, a Catholic. But he eventually was linked to the notorious Ingle's revolt and took refuge across the Potomac in Northumberland County which later became Westmoreland. The Virginia Land Patent Books showed that on 8 Jun 1650, Andrew Monroe received from Sir William Berkeley a patent for 200 acres in Northumberland County. This patent was for the transportation of four persons. He later was among the ninety-seven settlers who signed the Oath of Allegiance to Cromwell's "Commonwealth of England as established without King or House of Lords, 11 Apr 1652" He then on 24 Nov. 1652 received another patent for 440 acres in Northumberland County for the transportation of nine persons. This patent was renewed on 18 Mar 1662. In 1652, Monroe married Elizabeth, daughter of John Alexander. They had at least five children. In Feb. 1663 he received another patent for 350 acres for the transportation of seven persons and by this time, having over 990 acres of productive land growing tobacco and corn. By 1661 he was considered one of the leading planters of his parish because on 3 July 1661 he was selected as a member of the vestry of Apomatocks Parish, which later became Washington parish. His exact date of death is unknown but on 28 April 1668, Elizabeth, relict of Andrew Monroe, made a deed of gift to her daughters, Elizabeth an Susanna, of "a pair of heifers marked with the mark of Andrew Monroe....all her children, Elizabeth, Susanna, Andrew, George and William to have a mare foal... when either Elizabeth or Susanna shall be married the the cattle shall be equally divided between them" (recorded 28 Apr 1668, Westmoreland County Records, 1668;23, 23a). **********«/i» Ref: "The Munro Tree (1734)" by R. W. Munro - Q/47 "Journey From Ross-shire" by James Harrison Monroe - p. 5 Clan Munro files - Stroud, Anna Mary - Eggleston, Sam Daniel, Jr. - Johnson, Monroe - James Monroe ancestors - "William & Mary Quarterly" - 1933 - Guilford, Dr. Joan S. - Boyer, Wallace R. - descendants of Hector Munro 13th "David Munro of Catwall married Agnes daughter to Mr Alexander Munro Minister of Durness by whom he had George Mr Andrew Alexander Robert and Hector who died without succession Mr John and a daughter Janet married to Hugh Boggie in Fortrose." "...Alexander Munro of Katewell is on record 1687/8 (FW 277, 279). The singling out of Mr John Q/48 in this MS suggests that all David's elder sons may have d without succession, but Mackenzie restricted this phrase to Hector and named Andrew as possible ancestor of USA President James Monroe (which may have been too readily accepted, in absence of any more likely identification, see CMM vi 14-18 and RWM in RSM's Lexington Munroes p. v)." Ref: Clan Munro files - Monroe, Richard Walter - "Virginia Descendants of Andrew Monroe" by Anne Monroe Wintzer - p. 33 Ref (1) says that Andrew was the son of Andrew Munro of Daan [12329]. Ref (2) says that Andrew's father was "William Monroe born in Scotland 1625 came to America 1651 located in Mass. Came as Captain on Lord Baltimore's ship." References: (1) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - "The Monroe Family of Virginia" - compiled by Nancy E. Harris - Jul 1988 - p. 7, 14 (2) Clan Munro files - Roder, Mary Margaret Ball - Pedigree chart for Andrew Augustine Monroe compiled by Rebekah B. McBride - dated 12 Oct 1977 - #B16 (3) Clan Munro files - Cataluna, Esther R. - The Ancestry of Esther Cataluna - dated 7 jan 1998 - p. 1 (4) "History of the Munros of Fowlis" by A. Mackenzie - Inverness (1898) - p. 480-481 (5) "The Munro Tree (1734)" by R. W. Munro - Edinburgh (1978) - Q/47 Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA [15, 16]

  
  

• Sources

  [S31] Clan Munro files - Grayson, John Stanford, John Stanford Grayson, Grayson Lineage - p. 1 (Reliability: 3). [S58] Clan Munro files - May, Frank Boon, III, Frank Boon May, III, Email from Frank May dated 4 Nov 2000 (Reliability: 3). [S58] Clan Munro files - May, Frank Boon, III, Frank Boon May, III, Membership application for Frank Boon May, III dated 15 Ma y 2001 (Reliability: 3). [S137] Clan Munro files - Shawver, Iona Richmond, Iona Richmond Shawver, Membership application for Iona Richmond Shawver dated 30 N ov 2001 - p. 4 (Reliability: 3). [S645] Clan Munro files - Boggs, Elizabeth Monroe, Elizabeth Monroe Boggs, "William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine " - Vol. XIII #4 - Oct 1933 - The Monroe Family - p. 231-241 (Reliability: 3). [S645] Clan Munro files - Boggs, Elizabeth Monroe, Elizabeth Monroe Boggs, Descendants of Andrew Monroe Who settled in Westmoreland Co unty, Virginia, 1652 - undated (Reliability: 3). [S645] Clan Munro files - Boggs, Elizabeth Monroe, Elizabeth Monroe Boggs, Monroe - 23 Aug 1932 (Reliability: 3). [S726] Clan Munro files - Lynch, John Samuel, Jr., John Samuel Lynch, Jr., Membership application for John Lynch, Jr. - 9 Apr 2009 (Reliability: 3). [S729] Clan Munro files - Bolton, James, Jr., James Bolton, Jr., Membership application for James Bolton, Jr. - 10 Jul 1984 (Reliability: 3). [S668] RW Munro's Genealogy Database, Robert William Munro, (The collected genealogy notes of RW Munro, Hon. Historian of Clan Munro (Association) edited by Dr. Jean Munro, transcribed by Charles C. Munroe, III and others. Transcription completed Jan 2009. Original card file is kept at the "Storehouse of Foulis" near Foulis Castle in Scotland.), card 346 (Reliability: 0). 1 [S668] RW Munro's Genealogy Database, Robert William Munro, (The collected genealogy notes of RW Munro, Hon. Historian of Clan Munro (Association) edited by Dr. Jean Munro, transcribed by Charles C. Munroe, III and others. Transcription completed Jan 2009. Original card file is kept at the "Storehouse of Foulis" near Foulis Castle in Scotland.), card 385 (Reliability: 3). 1 [S344] Clan Munro files - Johnson, Monroe, Monroe Johnson, Descendants of Andrew Monroe - received 22 Apr 2004 - p. 1 (Reliability: 3). [S378] Clan Munro files - Brown, Timothy J., Timothy J. Brown, Membership application for Timothy Brown dated 17 Oct 2004 (Reliability: 3). [S645] Clan Munro files - Boggs, Elizabeth Monroe, Elizabeth Monroe Boggs, Pedigree of the Munro Family - undated (Reliability: 3). [S702] Clan Munro files - Loehr, Reta Malan, Reta Malan Loehr, Genealogy data received from Reta Malan Loehr - Jun 2009 (Reliability: 3). [S665] Clan Munro files - Cochran, Helen M., Helen M. Cochran, Monroe Genealogy - by Helen (Hansen) Cochran - 1 Oct 2008 (Reliability: 3).