Charles Tyler

Notes:

References:

(1) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - e-mail message dated 4 Nov 1997 - p. 3

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA

Family/Spouse: Sally Brown. Sally was born about 1766; died in 1838 in , Prince William Co., Virginia, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Gustavus Tyler was born est 1789; and died.
2. John M. Tyler was born est 1791; and died.
3. Richard B. Tyler was born in 1793; and died.
4. Helen Tyler was born est 1795; and died.
5. George G. Tyler was born in 1797 in Of, Prince William C, Virginia, USA; died in 1856.
6. William B. Tyler was born in 1799 in Of, Loudoun Co., Virginia, USA; died in 1831 in , Prince William Co., Virginia, USA.
7. James Tyler was born in 1801; and died.
8. Mary M. Tyler was born est 1803; and died.
9. Tyler was born est 1807; and died.
10. Elizabeth Brown Tyler was born in 1811 in Of, Fairfax Co., Virginia, USA; died in 1888.

Notes:

References:

(2) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - e-mail message dated 4 Nov 1997 -
p. 3

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA

John married Margaret Gray. Margaret (daughter of Nathaniel Gray) was born about 1738 in , , Virginia, USA; died about 1805 in , Prince William Co., Virginia, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

References:

(2) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - e-mail message dated 4 Nov 1997 -
p. 3

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA

Notes:

Judge Charles Tyler was the son of Charles and Jane Tyler.

Ref. (3) states that an issue of the William and Mary Quarterly erroneously placed Charles Tyler (b. 1717, d. 1768) as a son of Judge Charles Tyler when in fact, the younger Charles was the son of of Judge Charles Tyler's brother, Benjamin. However, research done by Kate Wiley Bartok cogently refutes this conclusion and conclusively proves that Charles Tyler (b. 1717) was indeed the son of Judge Charles Tyler and Susannah Monroe.

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(The following is from an e-mail message from Kate Wiley Bartok - 4 Dec 2014)

«i»John Frederick Dorman's 1956 abstract from «u»PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILL BOOK C s«/u»hows the 1743 disposition of the estate of William Linton (1706-1733), Susannah's 2«sup»nd«/sup» husband, whom she married in 1728, by Benjamin Grayson (1684-1758), Susannah's 3«sup»rd«/sup» husband, whom she married in 1734. Note the coincidence of the year 1734: the year of the settlement conducted by Benjamin Grayson, who married Susannah the same year. In the settlement the following names appear with identical 46.12.1 pound payments (by far the largest cash payments in the settlement): «b»James Lovell«/b» (who was the husband of Charles and Susannah Tyler's daughter Jane Tyler); «b»Francis Jackson «/b»(who was the husband of Charles and Susannah Tyler's daughter Sallie Tyler); and «b»Charles Tyler.
«/b»
Thus, Jane, Sallie, and Charles Tyler were treated identically in the disposition, which seems strong evidence for being siblings in equal favor of their still living mother, Susannah, who probably was having some influence on Benjamin Grayson. It strains credulity to think that Susannah would be giving the same inheritance to one, and only one, nephew. Absent, interestingly, are the names John Tyler and Monroe Tyler (usually/sometimes cited as children of Susannah and Charles). It is also interesting that the settlements to Susannah Tyler's children dwarf those to her Linton children, suggesting that she was carefully segregating her inheritance from her deceased first husband, Charles Tyler, from the one she had from William Linton.

Another pair of names were paid differently: «b»Benjamin and Joseph Tyler«/b» received a total of 1552 pounds of tobacco.

Having been paid differently, it seems Benjamin and Joseph were probably not children of Susannah. Of course, Susannah Monroe's first husband, Charles Tyler, is commonly known to have had three siblings, Christian (1687-1754), Joseph (1692-1737), and Benjamin (1694-?). There is no indication if the Benjamin and Joseph Tyler listed here were the siblings of Charles, and if so, why Christian was not included, as he was still living at the time of the settlement. The tobacco settlement may just be repayment of a debt owed by William Linton, and having nothing to do with inheritance from Susannah's husband, Charles Tyler.

I believe that this documentation should be sufficient to again place Capt. Charles Tyler (1717-1768) as a son of Judge Charles Tyler and Susannah Monroe, and remove him from the Benjamin Tyler/Eleanor Middleton line.
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References:

(2) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - email message dated 4 Nov 1997 - p. 1

(3) Clan Munro files - Bolton, James, Jr. - email message dated 29 Jan 1998

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA

Charles married Susannah Monroe in 1716 in , , Virginia, USA. Susannah (daughter of Capt. Andrew Monroe, II and Eleanor Spence) was born in 1695 in , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA; died in Nov 1752 in Belle Air, Prince William Co., Virginia, USA; was buried in Belle Air, Prince William Co., Virginia, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Susannah (or Susanna or Susan) was married three times and had issue by (2) Charles Tyler, and (3) Captain (or Colonel) Benjamin Grayson. The Holt reference says she was the aunt of President James Monroe, but she was probably his first cousin twice removed.

Error alert: The Boggs reference says that Susannah first married William Linton and second Charles Tyler, but the dates of her children indicate that she was first married to Charles Tyler and second to William Linton. Also, the Bolton reference says Susannah was the daughter of Andrew Monroe and Elizabeth Alexander.

From her father, Susannah inherited: one negro boy, 2 cows, 2 steers, household furniture and 10,000 pounds of tobacco.

One reference gives Susannah's birth year as 1704. The Williams reference gives the name of Susannah's first husband as William Luiton.

Ref: Clan Munro files - May, Frank Boone, III
- Eggleston, Sam Daniel, Jr.
- Guilford, Dr. Joan S.
- Williams, Irmalee - Descendants of George Munro
- Benjamin Grayson family record

Susannah was buried in the family vault at their Belle Air estate.

Ref (3) says Susannah died in 1751. Ref (4) says Susannah (or Susanna) was born in 1705.

References:

(2) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - Descendancy Chart of Susannah
Monroe (second installment) - dated 7 Oct 1997 - p. 1, 6

(3) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - Ancestry of James Monroe,
President of the United States

(4) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - Descendancy Chart of Susanna
Monroe attached to a letter from Carolyn Brent dated 16 Jul 1997

(5) Clan Munro files - Cataluna, Esther R. - The Ancestry of Esther Cataluna -
dated 7 jan 1998 - p. 1

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA

Buried:
Susannah was buried in the family vault in Belle Air Plantation, the family estate between Quantico Creek and the Occoquan River in Virginia near Dumfries.

Notes:

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Birth:
Estimate: Nathaniel's birth date is an estimate based on the birth date of his daughter, Margaret.

Notes:

References:

(1) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia - "Genealogy of James Monroe" - email received 12 Jun 1998

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA

Notes:

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[Capt. Andrew Monroe] «i»Son of Andrew Monroe (d. 1668) & Elizabeth (?Alexander); Westmoreland County, Virginia, U.S.A.; Captain in Militia, J.P.; m (1) Eleanor Spence, with issue - Andrew (d. 1769/70), Spence (d. 1725/6), Elizabeth (m. John Arrington), & Susanna (m.[1] Charles Tyler, [2] William Newton, [3] Benjamin Grayson)(d. November 1752), & m. (2) 1707 Mrs. Sarah Elliott - no children.

Northrup 351; Notes by Mrs. de Volt (1957).
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(R. W. Munro's genealogy notes)
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Andrew lived in Westmoreland County, Virginia. He was a Capt. (one reference says Major) in the Scots Army and a Judge or Justice of the Peace. He owned large estates and numerous slaves. In 1705, he made a deed for 3 acres to John Hore, part of a tract patented by his father in 1652.

Andrew was married three times, but only had children by his second wife, Eleanor Spence (or Spens).

His first wife may have been the daughter of Thomas Bowcock, Sr., of Westmoreland County, and Jane Bowcock. She was the sister of Margaret Bowcock, who married her husband's brother, William Monroe. Her mother, Jane Bowcock, married (2) Thomas White after the death of Thomas Bowcock. She had no children.

His second wife, Eleanor, was the daughter of Lt. Patrick Spence (1633-1684) and Dorcas, his wife. Dorcas married (2) John Jordon, who died 1696. Dorcas died in 1708, leaving a will in which she mentions her daughter, Eleanor Monroe and other members of the Monroe family. Eleanor's first husband was James Bowcock.

Andrew's third wife, Sarah Foxhall, was the daughter of John and Martha Foxhall of Pope's Creek, Westmoreland County, Virginia, and the widow of John Elliott. Sarah's granddaughter, Martha Sturman [3725], by her daughter, Sarah Elliott, married Jordon Weedon [3724], the nephew of Andrew, her second husband. (Follow that if you can.)

When Sarah's first husband, John Elliott, died in 1708, she was left with four minor children. She had no issue by her second husband, Andrew Monroe.

Andrew's will is dated 30 Dec 1713 and proved 26 May 1714. The Johnson reference says he died Nov 1735.

Error alert: The Cochran reference says Andrew married Christine Tyler, but it is believed that Christine married another person named Andrew Monroe. The same reference lists Spencer Monroe (who married Elizabeth Jones) as one of Andrew's children. Elizabeth Jones actually married Spence Monroe who was the son of the Andrew Monroe who actually did marry Christian Tyler.

Ref: Clan Munro files - Cones, Mona
- Stroud, Anna Margaret
- Monroe, Thomas Guy, III
- Eggleston, Sam Daniel, Jr.
- Johnson, Monroe
- James Monroe ancestors
- Guilford, Dr. Joan S.
- Boyer, Wallace R. - descendants of Hector Munro 13th

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA

Andrew married Eleanor Spence in 1678 in , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA. Eleanor (daughter of Lt. Patrick Spence and Dorcas Youell) was born in 1664 in , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA; died in 1708 in , Westmoreland Co., Virginia, USA. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Error alert: According to dates given in several references, Eleanor married Andrew Monroe when she was 14 years old. At least one reference says that she had been married (1) James Bowcock. I guess it's possible for her to have had a previous marriage at even a younger age, but it doesn't seem likely.

References:

(1) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - Ancestry of James Monroe,
President of the United States

(2) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - Descendancy Chart of "Andy I"
- received 17 Oct 1997 - p. 2

(3) Clan Munro files - Redden, Virginia R. - "The Linton Family", an article
from "Yellowed Pages", Vol. III, No. 3, p. 146-147 - attached to a letter
from Carolyn Brent dated 16 Jul 1997

(4) Clan Munro files - Cataluna, Esther R. - The Ancestry of Esther Cataluna -
dated 7 jan 1998 - p. 1

(5) Clan Munro files - Ramos, Ronald David - The Ancestry of Sean Russell
Redden

Compiled and edited by Allen Alger, Genealogist, Clan Munro Association, USA